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Papelbon is a free agent. And I can’t sleep! Coincidence?!

It’s Thursday. Officially. And that means more than insomnia, people. It means Johnny Paps, the Jonathan Papelbon we know and love (and NEED) is… a free agent.

“I’ve got a lot of money to be made in this game, whether it’s with Boston or not. My goal is to make sure I’m ready to play every day and to make money, and you can’t make money if you’re sitting on the bench. That’s the way I look at it.”

That’s what he said in 2007.

With the Sox offering Rivera 15 mill per season last year, I imagine it will be big-deal or bust for Johnny Paps. So does WEEI.

The Red Sox didn’t have any sort of illusions regarding Rivera turning his back on the Yankees‘ two-year, $30 million offer last offseason. But by offering the future Hall-of-Famer a deal, the Sox were also ready to commit to Rivera. It begs the question: If such an investment was potentially going to be made to the 41-year-old, then why not Papelbon?

Ortiz is rumored to be going everywhere from Toronto to New York. And Paps? Anyone’s guess. Should Cherington right this ship with a deal? Or should he bid bon voyage to a pair it would be hard to imagine out of a Sox uniform? If you could pick one- Paps or Papi– who would stay? I’ve got to go with Papi, good or ill (I don’t care how many reasons you have to let him go)… but is that my heart or my head? What would the world be like without a Soxy Papi? There’s lots of talk about this Grady Sizemore guy… It’s going to be an intense off-season.

And the hunt for a manager continues… even as a Theo compromise is still being worked out by the front office

With the Cubs AND Cards tossing their hats into the skipper search ring, it might be time for us to speed up our game. We don’t want to be the last without a date to the dance… We’re making progress? Maybe? We did just interview Dale Sveum. Thoughts?

And A-Gonz, Jacoby Ellsbury and David Ortiz all netted Silver Sluggers.

Still can’t sleep? I mentioned these yesterday- but here are photos of Ted Williams’ love letters. Neato.

And, if you’re still sleepy, check out this video with A-Gonz saying the fried chicken eaters really weren’t so bad after all.

Does laughter make you tired? Because this blog by a Yankee fan, irate that the Stanks didn’t get any gold gloves, made me giggle.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let me sleep now. I have meetings, meetings, meetings. All the livelong fricking day. And it is 2 a.m…

~L

Neat.

PS- SHUT UP, Curt Schilling. You lost your speaking privileges in September.

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  1. November 3, 2011 at 3:31 am

    Hey appreciate the first comment on the new blog. There’s always next year (for gold gloves and other hardware). if you had to pick one who’d you take back Paps or Papi? Oh and that quote about Rivera is interesting…I think they (Sox) were just driving up the price on Rivera much like it was rumored the yanks did with Crawford. I don’t think you guys had any real intention of making a commitment…gotta love the business side of the game.

    JM

    • FireDannyAinge
      November 3, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      You are wrong. The Red Sox offered the old man 15 million a year, a two year deal at the time the Yankees didn’t want to offer him a two year deal. Um yes I think we wanted Rivera. Not me, his steroid arm will fall apart some time soon. He can stay in NY

  2. Jup
    November 3, 2011 at 8:09 am

    The sentimental fan in me can’t bear the thought of losing Papi. The logical fan in me sees no real reason to let him go. I have NO idea where I stand on Paps. He’s good, but he’s not elite… and do we really want to pay him Rivera money when he’s blowing big games against the Orioles?

  3. Sosock
    November 3, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Sleep – mmmm……an interesting concept. I used to know what that was I believe.
    Not a fan of letting Papi go. I know that Sabremetrics, etc say go with the numbers and there’s no real reason to spend huge bucks to keep him based on that, but there is reason to keep your fan base interested. And Papi is an interesting character. When the fan base is interested the games have a better feel, the players get just a tad more enthusiastic, sometimes things happen that might not otherwise. Not so often as to make a bad team have a good year, but maybe enough to add a crucial 1 or 2 wins that could make the difference between staying home in October and not. And his numbers are certainly good enough that the money spent is not going to be wasted. It may take a little overspending compared to the return, but it would most likely not be a waste. And who knows, the big man is certainly capable of having another stellar year or two left in him.
    As far as Paps goes – wow. That’s a roll of the dice. Not to say we shouldn’t do it. Sometimes you win when you roll the dice. But I’d say he’s a lot more volitile of a commodity than Papi. Still, I love it when he puts on that Eat-Sh*t-Face and then follows through. It’s priceless.
    Perhaps with the upheaval in the top of the clubhouse a little stability in the ranks would be a good thing. It’s not like we had a crappy year, we actually had the best record in baseball during the middle 75% of the season. It was the miserable start and even more miserable finish that did us in. So while a total overhaul, up and down, might be in order if we had just sucked all year, I think keeping a lot of these pieces in place would probably be a good thing. After all, it was starting pitching, not relief or DH, that killed us in the end.
    There’s my 2, or maybe even 5, cents worth

  4. November 3, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Hard for me to see Papelbon not signing with the Red Sox (they’ll pay him, right?). As for the manager search, don’t worry about the Cardinals. We want RYNO (*stake through the heart of Cubs fans, the five or six who are left).
    –Jeff

    • FireDannyAinge
      November 3, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      No The Red Sox will not pay him. Fact is he isn’t worth the money he thinks he is. I really don’t think they will offer him what he wants.

      Two things will happen. One we will over pay him and he will suck like he has the last few years minus his contract year, Baltimore withstanding (You know when we needed him)

      or some other team will sign him and he will be come the second coming of steroid Rivera.

  5. November 3, 2011 at 11:09 am

    I think that Ryno would right the ship in Boston. That team is built to win and needs someone like Ryno to lead them. I cannot imagine Big Papi in another uniform either. Since coming to Boston he has been great.

    Ron

  6. FireDannyAinge
    November 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    The Yankee fans and players think they are owed just because they exist. Fact is with all te joke gold gloves Jeter has received over the years by my calculations the Yankees owe baseball like 6 gold gloves.

  7. FireDannyAinge
    November 3, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    I am done with Ortiz. He needs to get over himself. That being said if they bring him back at a reasonable price I won’t complain. I guess I am just still VERY, very, very, very, VERY mad at him.

  8. November 3, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Thank you for the shout-out. Very much appreciated. Cool blog even though I hate the Red Sox, You do good work!

    -Casey

  9. November 6, 2011 at 1:08 am

    Pap’ or Papi? Hmmm… Papelbon has said all the right mercenary things for years just as Papi did in October (“You know, the Yankees do things right.”). Papelbon is the premier closer in this Hot Stove season’s market which also includes Bell, K-Rod, Ryan Madson as well as Cordero and reclamation projects such as Nathan and Lidge. He’ll get the money he wants. The Sox were serious in signing Mo Rivera last year for just that reason. Theo was unsure of two things, if Pap’ would rebound for a contract year and if the Sox could sign him now. Sure, it’s not his problem anymore… or is it? Theo had praise for Papelbon and his taking the next step in both performance and maturity before he left for Chicago, where Papelbon will no doubt get an offer. Chances are if he’s not in Boston he’ll probably be in Philly… two big market/media teams who can pay him and present an immediate chance at a title.

    Papi on the other hand? He’d be foolish to leave Boston as no other city can offer him the already established folk-hero status. He’s in his mid to late 30’s (no one really knows for sure) and looking for his last big payday, obviously needing the money and a chance to win another title. Toronto has said they’re in, Seattle or the Twins may be a darkhorse and both the Rangers and Angels could be ready to make a big offer (Texas if they can’t sign Prince Fielder and the Angels because they need to make up for such an inept 2010-2011 offseason that cost half the frontt office people their jobs while competing with Texas) for a middle of the order guy who can reshape a line-up overnight. That and he’ll put a$$es in the seats. If Papi could play the field, I’d have the Miami Marlins putting in a big push. Wait for it… BUT… the DH position has diminished over the past few years as the dynamic has changed. Teams are using the DH as a spot to rest veterans and get prospects some offensive playing time. Most teams need a hitter who can play the field, not just a professional hitter. Teams like Boston, New York, Texas and even Los Angeles can afford to have a professional DH as they’re swimming in 25 position players and not 25 platooning members of the roster. Papi just couldn’t survive in the NL as an everyday player or a Jim Thome type content to come off the bench and pinch hit for later innings work.

    For all his posturing, I see Ortiz in Scarlett Hose next season… unless Texas or Los Angeles offer three or more years at silly money.

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